Wednesday, September 16, 2009

The NDP Are No Better Than The Rest Of Us.

Is anyone surprised to see Thomas Muclair making the big announcement today? At least the Bloc is coherent. They are giving the Harper government a limited get-out-of-jail pass but we all know how they will be voting when the non-confidence motion comes up.

The same can not be said of the high and mighty New Democrats -- what hypocrites. I used to ridicule this Prime Minister for what I regarded as sanctimonious behavior -- but these guys give new meaning to the word.

Who the hell do they think they are lecturing the rest of us when their decision is based only on one consideration: pensions before principles, plain and simple.

Loads of them will be going down in the next campaign and they bloody well know it. Saving their social-democratic hides is all they really care about. Fine. Keep giving us the BS but prepare to take your medicine. Here's a hint for you. When the day of reckoning finally comes, it'll have a rather bitter taste. Expect an election night that most of you will never forget.

9 comments:

  1. I finally found your McGill response. I don't agree with most of it. (It was difficult to find btw, it was buried several posts down.)

    Yes the NDP are like every party. They want to hold on to their gains. They are not interested in going to the Polls broke and 3-5% down from October 2008.

    They will not commit suicide because the Liberals have recovered from their 26.3% pop.

    The Bloc and NDP are both big loser if the Liberals gain seats. The CPC only have 9 seats in Quebec and at 16-19% will only lose 3 more. Some polls show Liberals might gain 5-10 seat in Quebec. The Liberals might take back Toronto and the North.

    So based on those Polls ignoring the principal of evil neo-con Harper destroyer of peace and universal love, how do the Bloc and NDP benefit from a stronger Liberal Party?

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  2. In my case, it should be "spelling" before principles!!!

    That should be: Mulcair.

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  3. Canadian Sense

    1. Can I assume that you are refering to the "North" of Ontario

    2. The only party that benefits from a stronger LPC is the LPC. The CPC benefits when the NDP and Bloc are stronger and split off some of the LPC vote.

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  4. Howie I agree. Ronald and I go back for almost a year trading barbs. I was being sarcastic.

    The Liberals are powerless to call an election and I have asked for months on several liberal blogging sites why it makes sense for the Bloc and NDP to give their seats back to the Liberals.

    I am still waiting for an answer to that question.

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  5. Howie,
    CanadianSense,

    I would have thought that the answer is rather obvious: take me for example - a dyed-in-the-wool red tory (translation: progressive). How did that play out? While a Progressive Conservative, opposed Stephen Harper, then Alliance leader; opposed the so-called "merger" because the Alliance had the numbers and would control the party; tried to give Harper the heave-ho in 2005; put up with him until last December when I vamoosed to the Liberals.

    Call me stupid but I expect other progressive to behave like progressives - in other words, ask themselves which is the greater priority? Saving one's own political ass or moving hell and heaven to get that guy out of office. In my case, it's no contest. Sending Stephen back to Calgary has to be job one.

    Quite obviously, I'm a naive idiot expecting others to put their own selfish self-interest second. Harper and the other Conservatives can have a good laugh at my expense. That's fair comment in my book.

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  6. Ronald

    You and I had agreed some time ago that this fall was the LPC's best chance and that the CPC needed time.

    Right now, things seem to be playing out in the CPC's favor.

    The difference now, however, is that the LPC can oppose and vote against the government, if they come up with some viable policy alternatives instead of "I am not Mr. Harper, I am better", they could, over time, be percieved as a government in waiting.

    With regard to the the "merger/takeover". That had to happen or the government would have been handed to the LPC for the foreseeable future. We have some pretty diverse views in the country and a party has to have a pretty big tent to have enough of a voters base to have a a chance at government, yes, I too saw it as a "takeover' but then the Alliance was the larger and stronger of the two parties.

    Who do you think is the front-runner to replace Layton, Mulclair maybe?

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  7. Howie,

    I'm probably full of it (it wouldn't be the first time!) but here is the lineup for the after-next election:

    LPC: Prime Minister Michael Ignatieff;

    CPC: Opposition Leader Monte Solberg;

    NDP: Paul Dewar (unless Tom Mulcair wins in Outremont);

    BQ: Pierre Paquette.

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  8. Ron there is nothing wrong with drinking the Liberal Kool-Aid.

    Have you seen the LSI for Iggy since June 2009?

    On the Nanos site, at 54 he has tied Dion's Feb numbers.

    Any prediction how that number is going to go up?

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  9. Ronald

    Some of that may be wishful thinking. If Mr. Harper decides (or is forced) to leave I don't think Solberg would be the guy. He is pretty much an original Reform guy and I think the the party nationally will be smart enough to lood at McKay or maybe Prentice.

    I don't know enought about the Bloc (in my part of the country the Bloc is Ducceppe surrounded by a lot of blank faces) to even comment.

    Any chance the Dipper's will do the politically correct thing again and go back to a woman (Maybe Judy W. (I can't spell her last name and won't take the time to look it up) from Winnipeg, or is their experience with Alexa/Audrey still sticking in their craw?

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